Carnival Reviews Smoking Policies

Posted Jul 20th 2010 03:53 PMUpdated Aug 2nd 2010 10:17 AM

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Carnival Cruise Lines is causing a bit of a stir among smokers with the disclosure that the cruise line at least temporarily banned smoking in the cigar bars on three ships.

Smoking bans on cruise ships are always a hot button for both cigarette and cigar smokers and those who advocate for more non-smoking areas.

Carnival's cigar bar experiment came to light on popular Cruise Director John Heald's blog.

In response to a reader question, Heald wrote last week that the line had done a trial on three ships, the Carnival Destiny, Carnival Glory and Carnival Freedom, making cigar bars and some other lounges non-smoking, and moving cigar smokers outdoors or to the sports bars.

Carnival spokesman Tim Gallagher tells AOL Travel News the move was an "experiment," that the cruise line was seeking guest input, and that officials would look at the results. "Now it goes into the evaluation period and it will take some time before any decisions are reached," he said.

Meanwhile, smoking in the cigar bars and lounges on the three ships will be restored after the current cruises, Gallagher said.

At issue, at least on some ships in the 22-ship Carnival fleet, is that the cigar bars are positioned so that you have to walk through them to get to the ship's Internet cafe.

"I personally understand why we are looking at this," writes Heald, himself a cigar smoker. "I know it is not much fun for non-smokers to pass through the cigar lounges to get to the Internet cafe."

He adds that putting the Internet cafes near the smokers, "was silly."

According to Cruise Critic, a leading cruise website, Carnival's smoking policy is considered to be one of the industry's least restrictive, with cigarette smoking permitted in cabins, casinos, discos, live music venues and designated open deck areas.

Heald is conducting an informal poll on the possible smoking policy changes.

Photo, Tomas Fano, flickr



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Marie

To make everyone Happy... offer smoke free curises and move the internet cafe / business center out of the smoke room. It would also be a plus to have wireless internet if possible on the cruise ship and stop charging for it. I took a 7 day crusie on carnival last year.. paid for internet I never used.

July 24 2010 at 12:23 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
JnRsmom

Kim you are correct! I agree with you 100% that you should be left alone in the smoking areas! I must disagree with you about the non-smokers being horrible people. Don't get me wrong, I know quite a few former smokers who are a P.I.T.A.! My father is one of them. He thought nothing of smoking 2 packs a day for my entire childhood; in the house, in the car (and he kept the windows closed!) wherever he was allowed. But since he quit, I can't stand to be around him when a smoker is present! I argue with him constantly! I am, however, a former smoker and I have NO desire to get the rest of the world to quit!

July 22 2010 at 2:51 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Paparazzi904

Stinky smokers....i don't wanna breath in your nasty habit. It makes my clothes stink! Non-smokers...have you ever got fresh and clean,smelling all good, then go to the bar or club and come out smelling like an ashtray! Ban all smoking period in public! I think California got it right...i believe you can't even smoke in a bar there. Here in FL you can in bars but not resturants THANK GOD. My brother is a smoker and says im just a pussy...well I say cough,cough,cough...kiss my ass with your yellow stained,funky clothes,aging faster than me ass!

July 21 2010 at 4:45 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Cyzane

I have absolutely no problem with a private enterprise making their own non-smoking policies. If they go wrong they will only have themselves to blame. This is the way it should be. The same cannot be said of the hospitality business owners who were forced to comply to government dictates against their better judgment to go smoke-free.

Second hand smoke is an annoyance to many people, but it is not a significant health threat by any stretch of the imagination. It is not a public health issue and public health should butt out and let private businesses decide how they want to run their business. http://www.fightingback.homestead.com

July 21 2010 at 2:45 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
ezzzymoney

i feel the non-smkers' pain so let's have smoking and non-smoking cruises

July 21 2010 at 2:40 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Janice

Hey, what I was talking about was the right to smoke. Indoors. In certain bars? clubs? diners? where non-smokers aren't allowed, children aren't allowed. Just like you have the right to drink yourself into oblivion (if you so choose), kill a million(s) of your tiny brain cells, leave that bar, get into a car and drive yourself home. Now the difference is the government hasn't confiscated your car. (unless you get pulled over first). Does that make it right? NO. but taking away your right IS wrong. I am (or was) considerate of others and didn't smoke if people around me were eating. I didn't like smoke blown in my face if I was eating either. Oh and while we're on the subject...if you don't like the smoke...get out of my bar. PS I don't smoke w/kids in the car and I wouldn't hang out with you anyway, you're rude.

July 21 2010 at 2:38 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
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JnRsmom

Hello again Janice! So what you are saying is non-smokers aren't allowed into bars, clubs and diners? And since when have children not been allowed into diners? My family went to one last week and they didn't kick us out for having children with us. And if you read my comment correctly you also would have seen that I said if I drink I only hurt myself AS LONG AS I DON'T GET IN A CAR!! If I plan on drinking, I either do it in the comfort of my own home, at a friend/family members house where I stay over or I bring a designated driver or hire a cab. I guess I haven't killed as many of those "tiny brain cells" as you think! I also think the government SHOULD confiscate your car if you are caught drinking & driving. How many people out there have 3 or 4 or 10 DUI's and keep getting pulled over?? If you had no car to drive, you wouldn't be getting DUI's now would you? And what planet do you live on where you think you have the "right" to drink & drive? I have to say...judging by your original post, I think you are a liar that you are (or were) considerate of others with your smoking. I never said that I want to sit in a smoke-free bar. I think it's WEIRD to walk into a bar and not be lost in smoke but that is the law in my state now. I don't know why you thought I was being rude....I was just responding to your comment. You have misjudged me. I am all for smokers having the right to smoke but you have to understand that non-smokers also have the right to go into a public building and be able to breathe. I went on vacation with 2 friends who are smokers and guess what?....we had a SMOKING room! Why should I inconvenience them because I don't smoke? It didn't seem fair to me to make them get up, get dressed and take an elevator down 12 floors to go outside! But when I go away with my children, I expect a room where I CAN'T smell smoke. It is not fun spending a week in the hospital with my son when his asthma flares due to smoking! P.S. It wasn't me who said you smoke with kids in your car and I don't hang out in bars anyway!

July 22 2010 at 2:42 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Katie

Hooray for you! It is absolutely absurd the lengths that the non-smokers have gone to trample on my rights. Almost as stupid as the state of Washington!! Tobacco was a cash cow for them. Anytime that they felt they needed to boost their revenues, they would slap a new tax on tobacco and alcohol. Great, then I can make my decision to smoke if I want to spend the extra money to purchase them. (No, I go over the border to Idaho and buy). Anyway, Washington did very well increasing their revenues. And all the non smokers nodded their heads and exclaimed that they only want to protect the smokers health. THEN, Washington State got stupid. They banned smoking virtually everywhere in the state except private homes and they're working really hard on that one too!! And the non-smokers continued nodding their heads. Revenues dropped because smokers quit going to the bars, they purchased their cigarettes in other states, or they quit. The state needs money and they can't count on their familiar cash cows, tobacco and liquor. Sooooo,,,,,they decided to tax bottled water, soda, and candy!! Those non-smokers that were nodding their heads self-righteously when the tobacco taxes went through the roof and smoking has been effectively banned from everywhere are now shaking their heads NOOOOOOOOO! You can't tax that! I enjoy a candy bar every now and then and I MUST have my bottled water!! What do you mean, raising the tax on these things!! NOOOOOOOO!
Well, as far as I'm concerned, you deserve it! It's a taste of your own medicine. And for everyone that thinks this is o.k. just wait, soon there will be a law restricting or forbidding something you enjoy and then we'll see how you're nodding your heads as one by one all of our rights and privleges are destroyed!

July 21 2010 at 2:09 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Richard Byrne

All drugs were legal in the beginning. Only later did we find the trouble spots and fixed them.

July 21 2010 at 2:06 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Kim

I am a smoker...have been for many years, BUT I respect those who don't smoke. I feel enough has been taken away from the smokers...but you "non-smokers" continue to want more. Get real!! We smoke, it's our choice - that's correct but we do not do it to inconvenience those of the non-smoking society. We do it because we enjoy it...WE ENJOY IT!!! If I go on a cruise and sit out on the deck in the "designated smoking area" no one should have the right to complain. I'm off in an area where non-smokers SHOULD not be to begin with. Am I correct? The worst of the non smoking society are those who used to be smokers. They jump on the band wagon because it's something they no longer do and think no one else should either. You know, there comes a time when people just need to focus on their lives and stop interferring with others.

If I pay thousands of dollars to go on a cruise - don't tell me I can't sit down and enjoy a smoke when the mood strikes me. That's part of my enjoyment during the trip...find something else to complain about...go blow your smoke somewhere else and leave us alone.

July 21 2010 at 1:47 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Liz

How about all the perfume and cologne, hairspray, etc? When I am eating I could almost gag on the scent of the woman sitting next to me.....I would imagine that is not healthy for asthmatics. Maybe fragrances should be banned as well or taxed so high. 2nd hand smoke is an issue if you are constantly around it for years - 1 week is not going to harm you. Stop thinking the world is yours and yours alone. My money is just as good as yours and I should be able to relax and enjoy myself too and if that means a cigarette so be it - I won't complain about your nasty perfume.

July 21 2010 at 1:43 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply

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